In Chapter 6 of 15 in his 2011 Capture Your Flag interview with host Erik Michielsen, leadership philosopher Bijoy Goswami shares how learning from storytelling and magic trick sequences has made him a more effective public speaker. Magic tricks have three elements: the pledge, the turn, and the prestige. He shares what he learned taking this approach by saying the "Star Spangled Banner" as a speech. Goswami lives in Austin, TX, where he develops models, including MRE, youPlusU, and Bootstrap, to help others live more meaningfully. He teaches his models through community activism, lectures, writing, and online communication. Previously, he co-founded Aviri Software after working at Trilogy Software. Goswami graduated from Stanford University, where he studied Computer Science, Economics, and History.