In Chapter 12 of 13, media and publishing entrepreneur Phil McKenzie shares his approach to seeking counsel and advice on difficult decisions. McKenzie finds value both in independent decision making and in accessing pragmatic outside views. He highlights overcoming the challenge presented when others focus more on safety than on possibility. Phil McKenzie graduated from Howard University and earned an MBA from the Duke University Fuqua School of Business. Before starting FREE DMC and the Influencer Conference, McKenzie worked for eight years in sales and trading at Goldman Sachs.